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Messagepar kitelooper » mar. 3 nov. 2009 21:19

bigfoot a écrit :http://www.adrenaline-kitesurf.com/boutique/432-c4-2010-ozone.html

Les tarifs francais.Finalement plus chére que la sport plus 2009 :cry: :cry:


:shock: 425 € la barre si tu prends l'aile complète...

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Messagepar mlm » mar. 3 nov. 2009 21:22

kitelooper a écrit :
bigfoot a écrit :http://www.adrenaline-kitesurf.com/boutique/432-c4-2010-ozone.html

Les tarifs francais.Finalement plus chére que la sport plus 2009 :cry: :cry:


:shock: 425 € la barre si tu prends l'aile complète...


non lorsqu'ils disent aile seule c'est vraiment aile seule, pas de pompe, pas de sac, pas de leash de barre. Cependant malgré ça je suis d'accord avec toi, tous autant qu'ils sont ils se gavent bien sur les barres :shock: :shock:

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Messagepar kitezone-reunion » sam. 14 nov. 2009 14:41

Premiers retours from Australia

I have been waiting for this kite for about a year. Seriously. . . a year. It was that long ago that the first rumours started to circulate about Ozone producing a C-shape kite. I've been patient. Well, kinda patient except when I was phoning Kitepower every other week asking the same question - When? When?? When???!!!!!

The magic day has finally arrived and like I shot I was down to Kitepower this morning to collect the 11 metre for testing. From the first glance as I lay the kite out on the grass ready to pump it up I was impressed. All the quality and attention to detail that you come to expect from an Ozone kite is there. Being that there was not too much wind early on I started in with a tape measure to check aspect ratio, length, leading edge width. You know - all the geeky stuff : )

By lunch the wind had begun to kick in, a steady 16 knots, so I headed out to see how it handled, and oh, didn't it handle! This kite is fast. And easy! And smooth! It turns fast, it's so easy to handle and the power is smooooooooth. It handled the light wind well without any dramas. I didn't stay out too long as my Mrs was jumping round with excitement waiting for her turn. She's a kiter as well, old school like me, and had been waiting ages to test Ozone's C4 too. How did she like it? Put it this way. . . it was only by standing on the beach and frantically waving my arms about did I manage to get her attention long enough to have her come back to the beach!! She loved it. Reporting that it had good bar pressure, stable in the air, smooth constant power and quick through the turns. She also managed to go out twice more during the day on it. Great proof that this kite has a good top end.

The wind was picking up by now about 20 knots so it was time to get back out there and get some air! Simple jumps were higher than on our Sport+. This kite takes you up (without too much whip) and then keeps you up too! Down turns and transitions etc were super easy. If I wanted a little more power from them well - here you go sir - have some more! It was great! My personal favourite though was the F16. While pulling this trick I really felt like it was pulling me with a C performance. It was fast through the loop with loads of pull. . . beautiful!!

I thought I should test it's re-launch abilities so I put it in the water twice using the security on the chicken loop. The lines were not tangled when I pulled the bar back to me using the safety line. It was super easy to reconnect. The launch was as simple as a bow kite. Just pull one of the back lines and wait. I did also launch it like a old school 4 line C and it was happy with that too : )

So, enough of my day at the beach with the new kite. Here are the facts:
Power - if you want it, it's there so use it. If you want less. . . that's OK too, the kite will work just as well.
Depower - As much as Ozones 4 line bow kites.
Versatility - Huge :))
Bar pressure - The C4 has 3 settings on the kite for this, so everyone will be happy. Just choose your preference.
Boost/Lift - This kite has lots and then a bit more. Use it!!

All in all - perfect. There's just one thing. If you've got a wife or girlfriend that kites too, may I suggest you hide your C4s or you may never get a go!!

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Messagepar bigfoot » sam. 21 nov. 2009 08:14

Je viens de trouver un retour d'un australien avec les plages de vent.


Rider Weight: 76kg's
Level: intermediately advanced
Style: Freeride, Surf on TT's
Weather: 12 - 35+ knots
Build Quality: 10/10
Satisfaction: 9/10
Disclosure: You know who I am!

Comes in sizes - 5m 7m, 9m, 10m, 11m, 12m, 13m, 15m
Sizes tested and on demo at KP Sydney - 9m, 11m, 13m

This past week I have several hours on the 3 kites above, I've ridden the 11M the most. I've relaunched the 9M and 11M, have not crashed the 13M, bit have ridden it for approx 3-4 hrs, the 11M for approx 6-7hrs and the 9M for approx 90 mins.

Key points are that that kite is a C kite with depower on demand, it turns like a C kite, tight and pivotal, with plenty of power on tap in the turn and no tendency to stall or spill too much air and lose power mid turn, IF you hold the bar in, but if you want some depower when you are landing, its there. Pushing the bar out depowers the kite 60-70%, but the kite does not immediately flutter and start falling when the bar is released, unless the wind is below optimal for that size.

I like this feature and think its what most intermediate to advanced riders want in kites now. This allows the rider to screw up a trick and probably grab the bar again after the crash/burn and get ready to go again manouver.
Begginers with good kite skills could easily learn to kite on this kite (after lessons).
The kite unhooks perfectly straight out of the bag.
Bar pressure and turn speed can be adjusted with different tabs on the rear line connections. I prefer the medium setting on all the kites, I like a bit of bar pressure.

There are no pulleys on these kites and feel from the kite is very direct and smooth, I found I hardly ever needed to look at the kite and could tell where it was easily, even when under water from a crash/plonked landing.

I rode the 11M yesterday in winds up to 33+ knots at Kurnell, this was not the ideal wind range for me but it was doable and I stayed out for approx 1hr plus. There was another rider out who weighs in around 100kg's he was on the 13M, we both had massive boosts, upwards of 12M, with feather soft landings, because the kite is so easy to redirect and you can leave the redirect to quite late on the way down. The kite can also be swung back for booting from lower in the window than bows, and thats part of the technique to boosting large on them.

The kites are extremely stable and although I have not tested them in waves yet I think they will be a very nice wave kite. Hopefully an experienced wave rider will test one and review it soon.

The one word that all riders that fly the kites express is "smooth". They do not have the same low end as some bow.hybrid.sle kites, but once they are in their range they are excellent and exciting kites to fly.

The new bar is excllent, it has finger grips, with a perforated eva foam cover, bigger centre hole to allow the kite to be depowered while turning, and to stop any binding with the through the bar front line flag out system

Wind range for me
9M - 25/35+ knots
11M - 17/30 knots
13M - 14/25 knots

Here are some pics on no particular order.



http://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topi ... hichpage=2

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Messagepar mlm » sam. 21 nov. 2009 09:31

elles sont sorties en france ou pas,

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Test C4 9m

Messagepar Cerveau Lent » dim. 22 nov. 2009 21:24

Test en hollande ce week-end avec une 9m pretee par Billy-Kite a BXL.

Conditions:
- Plan d'eau plat avec vent de 25 noeuds (debut de session) a 40 noeuds (fin de session).
- 2 Riders 74kg/82kg habitues aux ozones sport+/Edge pour l'un et Rev II pour l'autre.
- Reglage de l'aile: Point d'attache des AR au milieu (l'aile a 3 reglages de + lent a + rapide avec une pression de barre qui diminue quand on va vers + rapide).
- Planches: TT acid 130 et SS lunacy

Les +:
- Plage haute impressionante: on pu la tenir jusqu'a 40 noeuds ce qui est impossible pour nous avec nos Ozone Sport+/Rev II 9m
- Rapidite equivalente a la sport + 7m et un virage plus sur l'axe que sur l'oreille.
- Meme pression de barre que la Sport +
- Sustentation superieure a la Rev II et a la Sport + meme taille. On envoie l'aile a 13h pour l'appel, on la garde a 12h pendant le vol et on la renvoie a 11h quand on voit la zone d'amerissage. L'aile est suffisamment rapide pour la renvoyer au dernier moment et amerrir comme une fleur. Le timing est intuitif.
- Aile tres saine: elle ne se deformait pas meme dans les claques a 40 noeuds.
- Super stable au zenith ou en bord de fenetre.
- Redecollage nickel mais tout redecolle dans un vent pareil.
- Construction et finition au top comme d'hab avec Ozone. Il y a maintenant un sceau sur le spi "Rip stop fabric by Teijin Techno Force" pour ceux qui n'ont pas encore remarque que Ozone n'utilise pas le meme spi que la plupart des marques made in China.
- Barre unique de 54cm (5cm de moins que les Sport+) unique pour toutes les tailles. Nouveau grip.

Les -:
- L'aile tourne vite et sur son axe mais il faut franchement engager la barre avec un petit temps de reponse. Moins reactive que la Rev II meme taille. On a pas teste le reglage avec les AR sur le bord de fuite pour + de reactivite.
- La deco reste tres sobre et classique

Les?:
- La plage basse (y'avait trop de vent)
- Comportement dehooke (y'avait trop de vent)
- Redecollage plage basse (y'avait trop de vent)

Conclusion:
- Le C4 donne le meme feeling que la sport+ mais avec plus de vivacite et une meilleure plage haute. La sustentation semble aussi un peu meilleure. Faudra teste la plage basse. Si elle est comparable a celle de la Sport +, c'est un sans faute.

Pour d'autres retours voir ici: http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php? ... 8&p=626928
et la: http://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topi ... C_ID=55770.

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Messagepar Soeur Emmanuelle » dim. 22 nov. 2009 23:38

Question bête et naïve:
normal qu'elle se tienne plus loin si c'est une aile en C, donc ce n'est pas vraiment une 9m comparée à une 9m aile plate...??? C'est une C-shape avec bridage donc une peite 9m avec depower...???

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Messagepar bigfoot » lun. 23 nov. 2009 01:03

Merci pour ce premier test .
La 9 aurait la plage de vent d'un sport + 7.
Il semble en fait qu'il faille ajouter 2m de plus en C4 pour avoir la plage de vent d'une sport +.

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Messagepar Cerveau Lent » lun. 23 nov. 2009 09:50

Je me suis mal exprime:

On avait gree 9m C4 (en test) et 7m Sport+. On a gree la 9 parceque c'etait une voile en test mais c'etait du temps a 7m. On a du poser la 9 quand les rafales on atteint les 40 noeuds mais la sport+ est restee sur l'eau.

Pour ceux qui connaissent les sport+, la 9m est bien plus puissante que la 7m. La remarque c'est qu'en 9m Sport+ on aurait pose bien avant et on aurait sans doute laisse la voile dans son sac vu les conditions.

Donc la plage haute du C4 9m est superieure a la plage haute de la Sport+9m mais pas point d'etre equivalent a une Sport+ 7m!

La question maintenant c'est la plage basse du C4 9m par rapport a la Sport + 9m.

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Messagepar maestro5959 » lun. 23 nov. 2009 09:56

Dit moi cerveau lent, quelle est pour toi la plage basse et haute de ta 9 sport+ sans trop serrer les fesses ni se faire ch*er?

En tout cas, les retour de la C4 sont plutot encourageant... Wait and see... ;)


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